12 But these [men], like unreasoning animals born naturally to be caught and destroyed, will, in the things of which they are ignorant and speak abusively,+ even suffer destruction in their own [course of] destruction,
10 Yet these [men] are speaking abusively of all the things they really do not know;+ but all the things that they do understand naturally like the unreasoning animals,+ in these things they go on corrupting+ themselves.